Thread: HDRAs 2012 rule book is out for the series

The rules are out and 1450 will now just be called 1400(link and leaf all in one class if you choose). 1500 is also now a Sportsman class, and they lifted the motor limitations. It is now class 2000. Heavy Metal is now considered the new Pro 1400 class. Here is the rule book.


http://www.hdrarace.com/downloads/20...0ver%201.0.pdf

wooohooo VIVA HDRA!

To quote the infamous Dan200, Heck just squirted a little.

Still a little fine tuning needed

HM - must retain 2/3 of frame rails . That cuts a few people out including myself

SCORE weights and tubing sizes if enforced will cut out alot, including myself

Looks good otherwise.

Cool. Now lets see how they do next year. I'm still racing MORE since I already have my mind set on it and I can't afford HDRA without new sponsor help. But I am anxious to see how they do. Everything sounds really good. Only time will tell.

Ok, seriously...2 different computers (my home laptop and my work computer) will open the file for the rules, but neither will allow me to scroll past the first page without the file completely freezing up....this is frustrating. Can somone copy and paste the class 2000 rules in here for me? Thank you.

Originally Posted by FCORR

Ok, seriously...2 different computers (my home laptop and my work computer) will open the file for the rules, but neither will allow me to scroll past the first page without the file completely freezing up....this is frustrating. Can somone copy and paste the class 2000 rules in here for me? Thank you.

Ill email it to you AJ. It posts all weird in here

here ya go for those who cant get it to work

2011 HDRA Rule Book

Got the email, thanks Vince!

Originally Posted by FCORR

Ok, seriously...2 different computers (my home laptop and my work computer) will open the file for the rules, but neither will allow me to scroll past the first page without the file completely freezing up....this is frustrating. Can somone copy and paste the class 2000 rules in here for me? Thank you.

Same thing happened for me both my laptop and work computer both froze up I ended having to open it on my phone.

Edit: Just saw the other link he ^ posted and it works perfect!
Thanks

Well looks like im out due to my 1.5 cage

Just reviewed the class 2000 rules. The only way this class will succeed (IMO) is to attract some of the 7s, stock full, Class 3, and JeepSpeed guys. Do you guys think these racers will go for a Sportsman class? I am personally ok with it, but I just don't want this to turn into a low turnout class much like MORE's 1450. If we want it to succeed it's time to start getting the word out about it and getting all the leaf sprung trucks to run together...

80" track width in class 8 FML

Why make 2000 an open engine class?
That kind of kills the point, IMO.

Suspension is still gonna limit your speed imo

There's power to weight ratio though. Stock motor types kept power to weight equal, if you wanted a v8 you had to deal with the added weight of a full size.

not arguing with you at all there, thats what i liked about the rules how they were. maybe something to bring to their attention?

If motors are unlimited in 2000 then they should allow forced induction.

Yawn... looks like I'll be bench racing from the sidelines.

Originally Posted by FCORR

Just reviewed the class 2000 rules. The only way this class will succeed (IMO) is to attract some of the 7s, stock full, Class 3, and JeepSpeed guys. Do you guys think these racers will go for a Sportsman class? I am personally ok with it, but I just don't want this to turn into a low turnout class much like MORE's 1450. If we want it to succeed it's time to start getting the word out about it and getting all the leaf sprung trucks to run together...

In the past, did 1500 pull any of these other classes into any races? Just curious. On one hand I agree with you AJ, but on the other hand it's now very attractive to guys that may want to give racing a shot for the first time. I used to be all gung ho on making it sportsman, but I do like the pro aspect as well. I dont think 1500 had a chance to flourish, HDRA may be that chance. What would be cool is for the 2000 class to get so big that it could split into a pro class.

Originally Posted by Brandon_Charley

Why make 2000 an open engine class?
That kind of kills the point, IMO.

I dont think that 2000 is going to be a high HP class. Sure there will be a few, but the attrition rate goes up with HP and leafs.

I like that they opened up the motor rules for 2000 (1500). It didn't make sense to me that a V8 f-1fifty could go against a V6 or 4 cylinder leaf trucks. Obviously going with an older F1 would be the best platform for that class.

Originally Posted by Travisfab

In the past, did 1500 pull any of these other classes into any races? Just curious. On one hand I agree with you AJ, but on the other hand it's now very attractive to guys that may want to give racing a shot for the first time. I used to be all gung ho on making it sportsman, but I do like the pro aspect as well. I dont think 1500 had a chance to flourish, HDRA may be that chance. What would be cool is for the 2000 class to get so big that it could split into a pro class.



I dont think that 2000 is going to be a high HP class. Sure there will be a few, but the attrition rate goes up with HP and leafs.

There were 7S trucks that were running 1500, but not many of them...I hope the class takes off, we'll see.

I agree 100% on the HP thing...a V-8 Ranger or Toyota will be at a disadvantage IMO in this class. Leaf sprung guys have problems keeping leafs together with V-6's...they'll never last with a V-8. So bring 'em on!!!

Originally Posted by GREGASAURUS REX

I like that they opened up the motor rules for 2000 (1500). It didn't make sense to me that a V8 f-1fifty could go against a V6 or 4 cylinder leaf trucks. Obviously going with an older F1 would be the best platform for that class.

The older F150 would not stand a chance against a leaf sprung V6 mini. The power to weight would actually favor the mini by a large margin. My stock 4.0 laid down more hp and tq to the wheels than when the truck had a 302 in it. And with it being a mini it saves 2K pounds over the full size also. A well setup 7s would dominate that class. Now that the motors are open, I think it hurt the intent of the class, but will still favor a mini.

Originally Posted by AZmxer

Still a little fine tuning needed

HM - must retain 2/3 of frame rails . That cuts a few people out including myself

SCORE weights and tubing sizes if enforced will cut out alot, including myself

Looks good otherwise.

Kevin, I don't see how this would limit yourself out. You have the front suspension section (1), under the cab section (2), however you do not have the rear back section (3) so you would still have 2/3rd's correct??



I think not sticking with the traditional numbers is a pain in the ass. Now almost every org has a different number system and or rules to each class...

Originally Posted by WFODAN

A well setup 7s would dominate that class.

I agree! This will be the setup to beat...until a truck comes along of similar caliber but takes full advantage of the suspension advantages...

Would cantaleaver(SP?) be considered leaf springs?

Originally Posted by DiRt YoTa

Would cantaleaver(SP?) be considered leaf springs?

HDRA Class 2000 rules state:

REAR SUSPENSION - Must utilize LEAF SPRINGS. No frame notching is allowed. Front mount must be solid. Rear shackles are open.

FAWK the site is down for construction did anyone save the rulebook? i know fail on my part...
if so please email to

kellan@kingshocks.com

Originally Posted by Dirt E Dreamer

FAWK the site is down for construction did anyone save the rulebook? i know fail on my part...
if so please email to

kellan@kingshocks.com

Originally Posted by mcheck

here ya go for those who cant get it to work

2011 HDRA Rule Book

right there buddy

thank you!!!!!

if somebody here is in San Diego it would be sweet if you could come check out my cage and let me know if its up to par. if not i can just post a bunch of pics. lmk

The 2000 class seams more appealing to me for what I got going on. I'm building a 7s ImageUploadedByTapatalk1320893587.784962.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1320893719.371317.jpg and for me being a first time racer in feb I'm leaning towards this class to get my feet wet for the first time.

Originally Posted by hnm02ranger

The 2000 class seams more appealing to me for what I got going on. I'm building a 7s ImageUploadedByTapatalk1320893587.784962.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1320893719.371317.jpg and for me being a first time racer in feb I'm leaning towards this class to get my feet wet for the first time.

Good call. Great class to start in.

Originally Posted by hnm02ranger

The 2000 class seams more appealing to me for what I got going on. I'm building a 7s ImageUploadedByTapatalk1320893587.784962.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1320893719.371317.jpg and for me being a first time racer in feb I'm leaning towards this class to get my feet wet for the first time.

Good class but be careful. Read the HDRA rules.

"I-Beam trucks must mount beams to stock mounting brackets and locations."

I think this means no equal length beams.

Yeah no problem for me. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1320912929.734313.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1320912954.661098.jpg in 7s it has to be like that anyway.

I am looking for input on my cage whether or not it would pass an inspection. i still have to do alot of my gussets and the tubes across the door openings but all the main tubes are done.

Thats a lot of square tubing in there. How come? Not saying its bad, just haven't seen it before.

All the square tubing is the framework for the floor and seat mounts

I'm stoked on the 2000 class. After the MDR incident I still wanted my truck to be built for 1500 but everybody kept telling me to go equal length because it would be easier. I kept telling them I had faith that someone would pick it up and I'm so glad I listen to anybody but myself. My first race will be Plaster City in 2000.

Originally Posted by yamaha kid

I'm stoked on the 2000 class. After the MDR incident I still wanted my truck to be built for 1500 but everybody kept telling me to go equal length because it would be easier. I kept telling them I had faith that someone would pick it up and I'm so glad I listen to anybody but myself. My first race will be Plaster City in 2000.

Remember, the pre-race tech inspection focuses on safety items. You will have to bring class rule questions about specific trucks to the Technical Director’s attention.

“I-Beam trucks must mount beams to stock mounting brackets and locations.”

No aftermarket beam pivot mounts.

Originally Posted by DezertRacer

Remember, the pre-race tech inspection focuses on safety items. You will have to bring class rule questions about specific trucks to the Technical Director’s attention.

“I-Beam trucks must mount beams to stock mounting brackets and locations.”

No aftermarket beam pivot mounts.

That is exactly why my truck has unequal length beams and is built to original 1500 rules MDR layed out. You wouldn't believe what I went through with different fab shops trying to custom unequal length beams built for a ranger with D44 ENDS lol. Every call I made I got, "Just go equal length that class isn't around anymore, it will be easier". So I ended up building them myself like I should have in the first place. But, none the less, my truck is finished and only needs safety equipment, a radio, and a full prep and I will be at the line in Plaster City.