Roll Cage Design 101

**EscoRanger** · 05-16-2009, 08:20 PM

alright so after thinking about the cage design, I decided to switch it up and go with the way bulldozer and only1mikey mentioned by going through the side of the dash, I started cutting it away and it was way easier than I had thought, and best of all, my e-brake will work still!

roostthemoon- thanks for your constructive criticism?? but I know what I am doing as far as bending, cutting, notching welding, I have built my own engine cage, bumper, bedcage and beams and they have held up fine, but I have never made a cage. I just thought i'd give that design a try, but you guys are right, in 5 months ill end up with a badly bruised left knee.

04yzfkid- thanks for the pic, that helped me out alot because I couldnt find any.

Anyways heres what I have so far, I'll prob make a build thread soon and show you guys the rest of my truck/cage.

**prerunin554** · 08-02-2009, 09:34 AM

bump

**TheTequilaWorms** · 08-04-2009, 12:06 AM

i was looking at the cage the mini had..(giant motorsports mini for those that dont know haha)

i wanted to get opinions on it.. good for a DD/weekend toy? i wanna keep it simple but very effective... id love to go for full cage but idk how much the funds are gonna allow...

just something i been looking into getting ..and id like to keep all the stock interior on the truck since i drive it every day

**1450ranger** · 08-04-2009, 12:51 AM

the truck got rolled on asphault and didnt budge. proof is in the pudding.

**oorracing** · 08-04-2009, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by TheTequilaWorms

i was looking at the cage the mini had..(giant motorsports mini for those that dont know haha)

i wanted to get opinions on it.. good for a DD/weekend toy? i wanna keep it simple but very effective... id love to go for full cage but idk how much the funds are gonna allow...

just something i been looking into getting ..and id like to keep all the stock interior on the truck since i drive it every day

External B-pillar Carlos!!
I have a full interior now from the bottom of the windows down! And I got a quote for a tad over $100 for a custom headliner.

**TheTequilaWorms** · 08-04-2009, 01:44 AM

pm me pics of ur interior yo!

**DuctTapeRacing** · 08-04-2009, 01:40 PM

or post them so others can see

**fleshwound** · 08-04-2009, 01:43 PM

i got no job, ill do it for u for cheap :-p

**oorracing** · 08-04-2009, 04:42 PM

I txt him some pics, but i'll go snap some real quick if you tell me anything specific you would like to see...

**TheTequilaWorms** · 08-04-2009, 06:37 PM

here are the pics kevin sent me.

thanks kevin

**Ant92ford** · 08-04-2009, 08:33 PM

Mini's cage seemed fine for a weekend toy.

Note: I believe it was also rolled at like 15-20 mph.

**TheTequilaWorms** · 08-04-2009, 09:39 PM

<---- once every 2 or 3 months toy

**Ant92ford** · 08-04-2009, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheTequilaWorms

<---- once every 2 or 3 months toy

It obviously did it's job on the slow roll and I'm willing to bet it would have saved people lives in little higher speed roll also.

**mornin151** · 08-25-2009, 08:07 PM

are there pre made kits or are you off to making it all by your self? custom.... also are there any changes with a extend cab....

**Johnny Raincloud** · 08-25-2009, 08:35 PM

Pre-Fab roll cages are never a good idea unless its just for show...
I would not want to trust my life with something so generic and general.

If you are thinking of caging your truck, it will have to be a custom job. Shops will charge you a great deal of cash for these. You have to remember that you are paying for the materials, the time involved, and the persons knowledge. You may be able to find some garage fabbers in your area that do great work and and save you some money rather than paying a shop.

An extended cab truck does change the design of the cage slightly, but for the most part, the concept of caging trucks is most dependant on the application the cage is needed for...

There are plenty of older threads here and on other sites that can definitely give you some basics about cages and caging your truck!

**ghostranger77** · 08-25-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Johnny Raincloud

Pre-Fab roll cages are never a good idea unless its just for show...
I would not want to trust my life with something so generic and general.

If you are thinking of caging your truck, it will have to be a custom job. Shops will charge you a great deal of cash for these. You have to remember that you are paying for the materials, the time involved, and the persons knowledge. You may be able to find some garage fabbers in your area that do great work and and save you some money rather than paying a shop.

An extended cab truck does change the design of the cage slightly, but for the most part, the concept of caging trucks is most dependant on the application the cage is needed for...

There are plenty of older threads here and on other sites that can definitely give you some basics about cages and caging your truck!

Really I know people that love those jeep pre fab cages...

**mornin151** · 08-26-2009, 01:52 PM

it was said try not to bend a pipe due to the strent it will looses... is it possable to make a cage with out bends? i'll draw a pic of what im thinking up...

**Travisfab** · 08-26-2009, 01:55 PM

Pipe is for plumbing. There are usually a few bends that are needed, but after that it's all fill with straight pieces.

**mornin151** · 08-26-2009, 02:00 PM

here is what i thought of.. where the pipe is bent for the inside of the front doors by the hinge... if you ran a stright pipe up and had it knoched out and then just put a small pipe acost the top of it and then knock out some on the other pipe that goes at a 45* or what ever.... like this

sorry the drawing isnt 100% good... but i hope it works...

**mornin151** · 08-26-2009, 02:05 PM

oh i should explain the colors that i used...

the orange are he bars that you would see... i drew it at a prospective... the black lines are the outer cage and the pink are the ones you wouldnt see... (hidden) then on the joint the black lines are the pipes and the pink is the one pipe turned so you would be able to look down it and the orange is the weld...

**LVbLaCkRaNgEr** · 08-26-2009, 02:07 PM

its Tube not pipe

**Travisfab** · 08-26-2009, 02:08 PM

The first pic you posted is how my truck is, nothing wrong with that. All your orange fill pieces are overkill. The problem with using all straight tube is getting it to fit tightly in your cab. Bends here and there are pretty tough to eliminate if you want a nice cage.

**Armistice** · 08-26-2009, 02:27 PM

I have a feeling you don't have a bender?

Even though bent TUBE is weaker than just a miter joint, when built properly it won't matter

**mornin151** · 08-26-2009, 02:58 PM

sorry about the tube pipe thing... I just thought that might be a little stonger... and no i dont have a bender... but i would be able to make one...

i just dont know if i should do it to my 84 reg. cab ranger or my 93 ext....

**sirhk100** · 08-26-2009, 04:17 PM

yeah, watch out saying pipe... the tubing police gets all offended when someone comes on here saying the wrong words!!!!

**mornin151** · 08-26-2009, 10:16 PM

yeah i noticed!

**motoman356** · 09-24-2009, 01:14 AM

i was lookin to see if this was already answered but couldnt find it, but about how many ft/inches of tubing go into a full roll cage build?

**foxrider276x** · 09-24-2009, 02:44 AM

^^ never built a cage before or anything of the such but i would imagine a few hundred feet or more depending on the truck and its uses. theres no standard number of feet for something like that

**oorracing** · 09-24-2009, 02:50 AM

My truck will have close to 280ft when it's all said and done.
I'm at about 180 right now.

**1969f100** · 09-24-2009, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by oorracing

My truck will have close to 280ft when it's all said and done.
I'm at about 180 right now.

same here.

But we both have the same exact cage practically

**motoman356** · 09-24-2009, 02:52 PM

thanks, i was tryin to get ball park figures for pricing it out

**Knuckledstr** · 09-24-2009, 05:09 PM

in cab expect to have 150 in a midsize and 200 in a fullsize.

**motoman356** · 09-24-2009, 11:16 PM

it would be a cage from front bumber to rear, if im gonna do one its gonna be all or nothin

**prerunin554** · 09-25-2009, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by motoman356

it would be a cage from front bumber to rear, if im gonna do one its gonna be all or nothin

I have bumper to bumper and i know i have at least 300+ ft of tube on it

**motoman356** · 09-26-2009, 12:15 AM

thanks for the numbers

**tacorunner87** · 02-22-2010, 03:01 PM

searched really didnt nice any info that i was wanting other then in the buggy section which was kinda useless since im not building a bug. Building a tacoma. Daily driver now hopefully it wont be in a year. Planning to do a roll cage soon. when i was getting quotes from people/shops and asking some buddys questions alot of people said 1.75" tubing. I will agree over 1.5" then talking to a buddy at BAP. He said do 2" main tubes and 1.75 everywhere else. I know cage rules are changing in all racing organizations. I don't plan to race right now but who knows maybe once i get it caged my mind will change. what size tubing do you recommend?

**1969f100** · 02-22-2010, 07:18 PM

For a ranger or toyota I'd do 1.75" for the mains. Do 2" if you don't want any worrying.

**prerunin554** · 02-22-2010, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by tacorunner87

searched really didnt nice any info that i was wanting other then in the buggy section which was kinda useless since im not building a bug. Building a tacoma. Daily driver now hopefully it wont be in a year. Planning to do a roll cage soon. when i was getting quotes from people/shops and asking some buddys questions alot of people said 1.75" tubing. I will agree over 1.5" then talking to a buddy at BAP. He said do 2" main tubes and 1.75 everywhere else. I know cage rules are changing in all racing organizations. I don't plan to race right now but who knows maybe once i get it caged my mind will change. what size tubing do you recommend?

Just buy a SCORE rulebook and see what you can get away with. make sure its the 2010 version, i guess they just updated it, so some of the rules might have changed on cage thickness/diameter

**allupinsydeyou** · 02-25-2010, 03:34 PM

goood thread. subscribed.

**JustTRD** · 02-25-2010, 08:09 PM

Can somebody post some pics of cage to frame mounts on 94 or similar year yotas? The pics in the front of this thread aren't up anymore. I'm looking for ideas.

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