Crappy fab work

**22REKID** · 12-08-2006, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (KartmanAZ @ Dec. 08 2006,2:16)]

That is the biggest hunk of shit I have ever layed eyes on. Total disgrase to everything Toyota stands for. The funny thing is on a lot of Toyota Forums people do that shit all the time. LT+bracket lift= no bueno. Fucking gay!

**KartmanAZ** · 12-08-2006, 04:32 PM

Yep, waste of a good Chaos kit .

**fleshwound** · 12-08-2006, 04:36 PM

i thought that was a chaos kit. they must be on crack to think thats cool

**22REKID** · 12-08-2006, 04:43 PM

Another example of a drop braket lift and LT.... or as I like to call it, "What Not To Do". *Do Not Try This At Home*

**fleshwound** · 12-08-2006, 04:57 PM

hahah is that a 2nd stock subframe mounted to the old subframe and they cut the old one off? how do u get the correct alignment with something like that. looks like its mounted on the original alignment bolts

**WISEGUY** · 12-08-2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (KartmanAZ @ Dec. 08 2006,3:16)]gnar

That's a typical hawaiian pile

**Alex_E** · 12-08-2006, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (22REKID @ Dec. 08 2006,3:26)]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (KartmanAZ @ Dec. 08 2006,2:16)]

Total disgrase to everything Toyota stands for.

you mean?

Take
Off
Your
Oversize
Tires
Asshole

Seems Accurate to me hahah

**KartmanAZ** · 12-08-2006, 08:50 PM

I find the extra wide wheels worse than the tires.

**oorracing** · 12-08-2006, 09:18 PM

If you look close, there is also a f-150 behind it and a tacoma(?) in front of it built with the same style..

**WISEGUY** · 12-08-2006, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (oorracing @ Dec. 08 2006,8:18)]If you look close, there is also a f-150 behind it and a tacoma(?) *in front of it built with the same style..

and a 4runner and a pickup un the other side. They are all like that in Hawaii

**HXCOMA** · 12-09-2006, 02:39 AM

it's called froggy style over there, it's fuckin stupid looking if you ask me

**02 f150** · 12-09-2006, 02:51 AM

Who cares,their not posting their shit here...But yet you guys are...

I guess you must like it then if you have to search for it.

**RKRANGER** · 12-12-2006, 11:32 PM

**jason@gmachine** · 12-12-2006, 11:49 PM

?

not attached to frame?

**edgerunner20** · 12-13-2006, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Alex_E @ Dec. 08 2006,7:34)]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (22REKID @ Dec. 08 2006,3:26)]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (KartmanAZ @ Dec. 08 2006,2:16)]

Total disgrase to everything Toyota stands for.

you mean?

Take
Off
Your
Oversize
Tires
Asshole

Seems Accurate to me hahah

hahaha i love it

**DuctTapeRacing** · 12-13-2006, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (jason@gmachine @ Dec. 12 2006,10:49)]?

not attached to frame?

what the fuck?

**-soLitaire-** · 12-13-2006, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (jason@gmachine @ Dec. 12 2006,10:49)]?

not attached to frame?

anyone know any more info on this ?

**jason@gmachine** · 12-13-2006, 01:51 AM

bam, this is it
FST Motorsports
clicky

**Scott F** · 12-13-2006, 10:15 AM

Nice ladder rack LOL

**metalkicker** · 12-13-2006, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Treinta_Mañas @ Dec. 12 2006,10:32)]

looks like the trucks been beat, but whats so crappy about the fab other than the rust? body lift.....?

**LostInOC** · 12-13-2006, 01:48 PM

maybe because the engine cage cross pieces are welded to 1/8" sheet and then tube crunched on with home depot specials with what appears to be no bung or washers. Those plates look like pretty snazzy hammer formed custom jobbies. If they were the proper thickness they'd be damn near impossible to form into that shape by your average joe fabber fabster. Shock mounts look good though.

**Brandon_Charley** · 12-13-2006, 01:54 PM

Pretty sure that looks like a boss on the nut side, and the piece that the crossbars are welded to looks like a piece of larger tubing that's been cut in half. I don't think it looks bad, except for the home depot bolts.

**metalkicker** · 12-13-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (LostInOC @ Dec. 13 2006,12:48)]maybe because the engine cage cross pieces are welded to 1/8" sheet and then tube crunched on with home depot specials with what appears to be no bung or washers. *Those plates look like pretty snazzy hammer formed custom jobbies. If they were the proper thickness they'd be damn near impossible to form into that shape by your average joe fabber fabster. Shock mounts look good though.

hmm, well that crossmember isnt going anywhere. i guess it could have been a little more beefed up for good measure, but looks to me that its going to do its job as a crossmember.

**Lone Ranger in Oregon** · 12-13-2006, 03:24 PM

it dosnt have to be cut by a cnc to be strong.
its not pretty but it will work, def would have used grd 8 bolts though.

**metalkicker** · 12-13-2006, 04:02 PM

on second glance love the emulsion coilover. im sure that things got some awesome valving. 2.5" i hope?

**battlescars** · 12-13-2006, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (-soLitaire- @ Dec. 12 2006,10:27)]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (jason@gmachine @ Dec. 12 2006,10:49)]?

not attached to frame?

*anyone know any more info on this ?

Other than the cage being at an angle, I think the body style of those older trucks is actually really thick and running it to the cab wasn't a bad idea. I saw an old style bronco roll with the cage welded to the body and it didnt tear at the mounts and those things are heavy as hell. I'm sure it would of been a better idea to do the cage to the frame but those things are tanks.

**motoman93117** · 12-13-2006, 04:45 PM

anybody know where to get a CNC machine or w/e my teacher says we can get one if i do all the research where and how much beacuse were getting a grant so if we get the machine well i can start machining....EVERYTHING lol

**LostInOC** · 12-13-2006, 04:46 PM

haha, oops, i said bung....i need TP for my bungholio. still....thats undoubtedly 1/8"....i dont see the boss...but then again, the resolution on my screen at work looks like a Van Goh painting.

speakin of work...i should probably be doing some of that stuff.

**esb4130** · 12-13-2006, 08:53 PM

its never a good idea to mount a cage to the body... period. it essentially bypasses the entire purpose of it and all you end up doing is wasting time and money. there are two main things that a cage does for you and your vehicle. one... its to add to the structural integrity of the vehicle, that cannot, in any way, be achieved by welding it to a rubber mounted piece of 20 gauge sheet metal. the frame is the only way to go. second, in the event of a rollover.... how is that body going to hold up to that? sure the body may not full get destroyed, but they will buckle significantly and then your left with a pile of crap, when if youd just done it to the frame, which is barely any more effort, you would have a perfectly fine vehicle still (at least in the sense of the chasis and main structure of the body being straight). on top of that, someone said that "those things are tanks". the heavier the vehicle, the BETTER the cage needs to be, as they have more mass, and thus will need even more structural rigidity and even more strength.

as for that toyota, although its not a TERRIBLE design, moutning the shocks off the SIDE of the hoop isnt exactly the best way to do it, as its constantly trying to tear the tube where the tab connects, rather than putting it under the tube where it would just be pushing up and against the tube. as for the way it mounts, it looks like its just a piece of tubing cut in half. the other thing, is that the tubes arnt hitting the shock hoop where it needs the support. it needs the support where the force is.... right over the shock. but... really those are minor things considering that its not really a race truck or anything, not bad id say if it was a home-job.

**RKRANGER** · 12-13-2006, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (metalkicker @ Dec. 13 2006,10:38)]looks like the trucks been beat, but whats so crappy about the fab other than the rust? body lift.....?

yea mostly the body lift and what everybody else said..

**KartmanAZ** · 12-13-2006, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (motoman93117 @ Dec. 13 2006,3:45)]anybody know where to get a CNC machine or w/e my teacher says we can get one if i do all the research where and how much beacuse were getting a grant so if we get the machine well i can start machining....EVERYTHING lol

haas

bridgeport

google

**TMorf** · 12-13-2006, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (battlescars @ Dec. 13 2006,3:13)]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (-soLitaire- @ Dec. 12 2006,10:27)]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (jason@gmachine @ Dec. 12 2006,10:49)]?

not attached to frame?

*anyone know any more info on this ?

Other than the cage being at an angle, I think the body style of those older trucks is actually really thick and running it to the cab wasn't a bad idea. I saw an old style bronco roll with the cage welded to the body and it didnt tear at the mounts and those things are heavy as hell. I'm sure it would of been a better idea to do the cage to the frame but those things are tanks.

I own a Bronco of that body style, ESB said it right.

**semi-newbie** · 12-14-2006, 01:27 AM

welding anyone?

WTF?

S&M Fabrication baby, im placeing my TT order from them right now. Peter

**jason@gmachine** · 12-14-2006, 01:33 AM

wow.

**matt_helton** · 12-14-2006, 01:36 AM

**6over_a_armed_ranger** · 12-14-2006, 01:39 AM

omg in that last pic he has every welding pass possable and they all look like shit. he has trigger welding, single pass,stich or weave pass, the classic under cut pass, and the to fucking cold pass. damn must still be using customers product to test out machein settings?

**rrp fabrication** · 12-14-2006, 02:26 AM

You have to be kidding me!!! That is comming out of a shop!?!? I am not one to bash on shit publicly, but come on! Someone that is represnting them as a shop open to the public and giving paying customers that kind of quality is just embearasing(sp)! If I did that kind of work it wouldn't leave my garage! I don't mean to be a dick but have a little pride in what you build, weather its for you or a customer!

**fleshwound** · 12-14-2006, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (rrp fabrication @ Dec. 14 2006,1:26)]You have to be kidding me!!! That is comming out of a shop!?!? I am not one to bash on shit publicly, but come on! Someone that is represnting them as a shop open to the public and giving paying customers that kind of quality is just embearasing(sp)! If I did that kind of work it wouldn't leave my garage! I don't mean to be a dick but have a little pride in what you build, weather its for you or a customer!

agreed, i dont know how any of these guys can put most or all of these things on the road or even offroad, even a retard would know thats shit work

**Armistice** · 12-14-2006, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (jason@gmachine @ Dec. 12 2006,10:49)]

I didn't know cages could have camber.. ?

**rby5cp** · 12-14-2006, 07:05 PM

this is the front end on that shitty tan s-10 thats 100feet wide that im sure everyone has seen

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