Results 1 to 27 of 27
3Likes
  • 1 Post By crazyracer
  • 1 Post By Tchajagos
  • 1 Post By yellowranger1

Thread: 4x4 travel questions

  1. #1
    Member desertdog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    41

    Default 4x4 travel questions

    im recently new to the 4x4 scene, im just came up on a ford bronco, i want long travel both front and rear but right now it has the 4x4 beam set up, are you able to get thge same ammount of travel out of 4x4, if not( which im assuminng not) whats the difference between a 2wd beam set up and 4x4 beam set up?

  2. #2
    DR Mod Travisfab's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    El Cajon
    Age
    32
    Posts
    17,642

    Default

    You can get in the high teens with extended beams, or low teens with stock width beams.


  3. #3
    Mega Member tvoymang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    IE
    Posts
    9,944

    Default

    It is very possible to make a 4x4 bronco work well offroad. There are several build threads on here for "go fast" broncos =)
    a lion never loses sleep over the opinions of sheep

  4. #4
    Mega Member tvoymang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    IE
    Posts
    9,944
    a lion never loses sleep over the opinions of sheep

  5. #5
    DR Photog DezertWife Photography's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Carpinteria, CA
    Age
    26
    Posts
    412

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by desertdog View Post
    whats the difference between a 2wd beam set up and 4x4 beam set up?
    other then the fact that there is a axle going through the middle of them not much different then a unequal length i beam. you are mostly limited by u joint bind on the center u joint, you can get a lot more then the teens on stock width if you do some work with the u-joints/ pivots to maximize uptravel. ive got a stock width d44 in my truck and its cycling 24in of travel in 4x4.
    Your BRRRs have to shift...you can just start your BRRRs in fifth gear. -Thomas
    http://dezertwifephotography.zenfolio.com

  6. #6
    DR Mod Travisfab's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    El Cajon
    Age
    32
    Posts
    17,642

    Default

    24 inches with both beams drooped at the same time with the axles in?


  7. #7
    DR Photog DezertWife Photography's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Carpinteria, CA
    Age
    26
    Posts
    412

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Travisfab View Post
    24 inches with both beams drooped at the same time with the axles in?
    yes its strapped at 24.5in of travel stock width d44 cut/turned and uniballed (14up 10.5 droop) with over 50k miles on the truck too.

    Your BRRRs have to shift...you can just start your BRRRs in fifth gear. -Thomas
    http://dezertwifephotography.zenfolio.com

  8. #8
    I may not know, teach me crazyracer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Pacific Beach, CA
    Age
    26
    Posts
    1,544

    Default

    ^He cheats

    RCV's!
    "Tres Cuatros"
    POLY GOATMy Build: 1994 4x4 Ext Cab Abominable Snowman

    If everything is under control, you're not going fast enough - Mario Andretti
    Good drivers have dead flies on the side windows - Walter Röhrl

  9. #9
    Eddie V. yellowranger1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Sylmar/Northridge, Ca.
    Age
    26
    Posts
    2,013

    Default

    I think the RCV's didn't net much of a difference in travel did they Thomas? I thought they were more for reliability/longevity sake. Go long travel TTB! Sometimes I wish I had!

  10. #10
    Mega Member simon5ay5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    santa barbara/ Carp
    Age
    29
    Posts
    18,438

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by yellowranger1 View Post
    I think the RCV's didn't net much of a difference in travel did they Thomas? I thought they were more for reliability/longevity sake. Go long travel TTB! Sometimes I wish I had!
    I used to strap it at 22.5 to make the u joints last longer but it cleared when I cycled 24 just didn't last all that long before breaking the u joint or axle.

  11. #11
    Racer sirhk100's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Age
    37
    Posts
    14,464

    Default

    Do you by chance have that same picture with the passenger side at full bump, driver at full droop?
    Khris

  12. #12
    DR Photog DezertWife Photography's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Carpinteria, CA
    Age
    26
    Posts
    412

    Default

    No i dont.
    Your BRRRs have to shift...you can just start your BRRRs in fifth gear. -Thomas
    http://dezertwifephotography.zenfolio.com

  13. #13
    Black Booger Fabrication nooch450's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    New Jersey
    Age
    23
    Posts
    2,329

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DezertWife Photography View Post
    yes its strapped at 24.5in of travel stock width d44 cut/turned and uniballed (14up 10.5 droop) with over 50k miles on the truck too.

    Do you guys have stock pivot brackets?

    If not people who can't afford those axle shafts can run 2"ish drop brackets to help the u joint angles.

    Im cycling 17ish with stock width D35 beams and drop brackets. Ill get final #s when I reassemble the truck.

  14. #14
    Mega Member simon5ay5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    santa barbara/ Carp
    Age
    29
    Posts
    18,438

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by nooch450 View Post
    Do you guys have stock pivot brackets?

    If not people who can't afford those axle shafts can run 2"ish drop brackets to help the u joint angles.

    Im cycling 17ish with stock width D35 beams and drop brackets. Ill get final #s when I reassemble the truck.
    2.5in lift built into the brackets

  15. #15
    Black Booger Fabrication nooch450's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    New Jersey
    Age
    23
    Posts
    2,329

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by simon5ay5 View Post
    2.5in lift built into the brackets
    Sweet setup, you must have 6"? lift total with those brackets and cut and turn D44 considering the D44 is already a 2inch ish lift compared to a D35 if I remember correctly.

    Thats how you got that sick amount of up travel lol.

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    fairfield/vacaville
    Posts
    148

    Default

    i was under the impression that dana 44's suffered from a lack of bump due to the 3rd member being bigger than the 35's and it makes contact with the frame quickly.
    did you notch your frame to help you get that number of bump dezertwife?

  17. #17
    Black Booger Fabrication nooch450's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    New Jersey
    Age
    23
    Posts
    2,329

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by derrik View Post
    i was under the impression that dana 44's suffered from a lack of bump due to the 3rd member being bigger than the 35's and it makes contact with the frame quickly.
    did you notch your frame to help you get that number of bump dezertwife?
    The D44 only seems to limit people a little bit. But with the 2.5" drop brackets he is running it allows for a bit more bump over say copykats 2" drop brackets. Maybe an inch or so? Hard to say tho. And I think they may be running on 37s.

    Edit: copycats brackets are 1.5" drop so that extra inch on his drop brackets will likely allow another 1.5"-2" bump travel without diff/frame clearance issues.
    Last edited by nooch450; 04-14-2013 at 09:39 AM.

  18. #18
    DR Photog DezertWife Photography's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Carpinteria, CA
    Age
    26
    Posts
    412

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by derrik View Post
    i was under the impression that dana 44's suffered from a lack of bump due to the 3rd member being bigger than the 35's and it makes contact with the frame quickly.
    did you notch your frame to help you get that number of bump dezertwife?
    No frame notch but what we did was, once the brackets were built we flipped the frame over (with front susp on) and marked out where the beam touched the frame. we then took a torch and heated the frame and hammered on where it hit, cycled it a bunch of times to make sure it was clear. we basically just pushed the frame around the pumkin so everything hit at the same time instead of the pumkins housing hitting before the axle tube.

    Quote Originally Posted by nooch450 View Post
    The D44 only seems to limit people a little bit. But with the 2.5" drop brackets he is running it allows for a bit more bump over say copykats 2" drop brackets. Maybe an inch or so? Hard to say tho. And I think they may be running on 37s.

    Edit: copycats brackets are 1.5" drop so that extra inch on his drop brackets will likely allow another 1.5"-2" bump travel without diff/frame clearance issues.
    its still on 35s right now cause i love the Muds, ill be switching up to 37s soon though. because of how much bump travel i have the beam gets really close to the ground and ive actually dented my beam from bottoming out on a rock. the 37s will help keep the beam farther away from the ground. in this pic u can actually see my skidplate touching the ground..

    Last edited by DezertWife Photography; 04-14-2013 at 10:24 AM.
    Your BRRRs have to shift...you can just start your BRRRs in fifth gear. -Thomas
    http://dezertwifephotography.zenfolio.com

  19. #19
    Senior Member Tchajagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Riverside
    Posts
    849

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DezertWife Photography View Post

    Dat up travel.

    McQueens new glass says you can stuff 39" tires.
    Last edited by Tchajagos; 04-15-2013 at 12:14 PM.

  20. #20
    Mega Member simon5ay5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    santa barbara/ Carp
    Age
    29
    Posts
    18,438

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tchajagos View Post
    Dat up travel.

    McQueens new glass says you can stuff 39" tires.
    Stock ball joints says I can't lol wouldn't trust past 37s. even with 37s I'll be replacing them twice as often

  21. #21
    Eddie V. yellowranger1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Sylmar/Northridge, Ca.
    Age
    26
    Posts
    2,013

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tchajagos View Post
    Dat up travel.

    McQueens new glass says you can stuff 39" tires.

    That's the F150 glass you're talking about... The ranger glass definitely wont clear tires that big.

  22. #22
    Black Booger Fabrication nooch450's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    New Jersey
    Age
    23
    Posts
    2,329

    Default

    Did you consider the metal on metal ball joints?

    Or maybe even custom beam ends with 2 king pins?

  23. #23
    Senior Member Tchajagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Riverside
    Posts
    849

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by simon5ay5 View Post
    Stock ball joints says I can't lol wouldn't trust past 37s. even with 37s I'll be replacing them twice as often
    Solution to this? Lets come up with something! Uniballs? In sure our collective minds would be able to fix this issue. Haha.

  24. #24
    Senior Member Tchajagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Riverside
    Posts
    849

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by yellowranger1 View Post
    That's the F150 glass you're talking about... The ranger glass definitely wont clear tires that big.
    Yes the new f150/bronco glass.

  25. #25
    DR Photog DezertWife Photography's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Carpinteria, CA
    Age
    26
    Posts
    412

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tchajagos View Post
    Solution to this? Lets come up with something! Uniballs? In sure our collective minds would be able to fix this issue. Haha.
    no point. the ball joints should be fine with 37s. ill just have to replace them sooner. last time i replaced them was about 40k miles ago. so not like im having issues with them.

    here is the truck tucking some 37s..


    Last edited by DezertWife Photography; 04-18-2013 at 04:38 PM.
    Your BRRRs have to shift...you can just start your BRRRs in fifth gear. -Thomas
    http://dezertwifephotography.zenfolio.com

  26. #26
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    fairfield/vacaville
    Posts
    148

    Default

    yah that glass looks amazing,im in love with that truck.thanks for the info.

  27. #27
    Mega Member simon5ay5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    santa barbara/ Carp
    Age
    29
    Posts
    18,438

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sirhk100 View Post
    Do you by chance have that same picture with the passenger side at full bump, driver at full droop?
    i do now.


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. 82 c10 long travel questions
    By jkwalkercchs in forum Fab Shop
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 09-21-2013, 06:32 PM
  2. 99-06 Chevy 4wd Mid Travel/LT Questions
    By DiRt YoTa in forum Truck Talk
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 11-29-2012, 09:17 AM
  3. H&m long travel questions?
    By tanner287 in forum General Off-road Talk
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-28-2012, 11:05 AM
  4. Shock and travel questions
    By DJSchick88 in forum Truck Talk
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-31-2009, 05:38 PM
  5. shock travel questions
    By 4literranger485 in forum Truck Talk
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-02-2006, 07:07 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •