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    hey I was wondering if it okay or bad idea to run my cage in front of the dash like this picture. I would still run a cross piece and make sure to have an A Piller. I just dont want to tear apart the dash since its my daily driver and dont beat the shit out of it. thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by EscoRanger View Post
    hey I was wondering if it okay or bad idea to run my cage in front of the dash like this picture. I would still run a cross piece and make sure to have an A Piller. I just dont want to tear apart the dash since its my daily driver and dont beat the shit out of it. thanks

    If you dont beat it up, why cage it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roostthemoon View Post
    If you dont beat it up, why cage it?
    Because its my ride home from the desert, and my ride to work and school, and don't have the funds to fix something major (if something breaks) until I finish college. (but I do have a bunch of tubing, a bender, and a welder!! so i figured I'd cage it) trust me I'd love to romp on it, but until i can tow it out there, its not happening. got any input on the design??

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    Your just wasting your time and tubing then. If you want to continue caging it the way you are, then that is your choice. But once that day come where you decide to actually start building, I can gurantee that that you will be pissed when you have to rip that cage back out and start over

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    Quote Originally Posted by EscoRanger View Post
    Because its my ride home from the desert, and my ride to work and school, and don't have the funds to fix something major (if something breaks) until I finish college. (but I do have a bunch of tubing, a bender, and a welder!! so i figured I'd cage it) trust me I'd love to romp on it, but until i can tow it out there, its not happening. got any input on the design??
    Then build it the correct way, you will hate that you did that 5-6months down the road. Take the time and tear the dash out and do everything right the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EscoRanger View Post
    hey I was wondering if it okay or bad idea to run my cage in front of the dash like this picture. I would still run a cross piece and make sure to have an A Piller. I just dont want to tear apart the dash since its my daily driver and dont beat the shit out of it. thanks

    looks gay but seems it would be stronger than running it right next to the a-pillar

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    Can we have more pics of this cage other than the one you just posted???

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    Quote Originally Posted by roostthemoon View Post
    Can we have more pics of this cage other than the one you just posted???
    yea, i only have this picture right now, which prob doesn't help. I have looked at many cage threads but Im considering doing it this way because I want to keep the air vents and e-brake for now since its my DD. I plan on starting over with a new truck once I graduate college. I didnt want to bend it around the dash like the second and third pic because under load it will just crush.?? or would the 2nd and 3rd pic a better design?
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    Sorry dude, but I am going to have to tell you the truth by saying you dont know what you are doing.

    You say you dont beat on the truck, yet you wanna cage it. Kinda weird to me. Also, you say that you are going to start over with a new truck later on. Why waste your time and a perfectly good truck to do this to it????

    Also, that gap that you have between the tube and the roof is unacceptable.

    Stop where you are, rethink what you are doing, stop jumping the gun, and do it right. When you are really ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by roostthemoon View Post
    Sorry dude, but I am going to have to tell you the truth by saying you dont know what you are doing.

    You have room to talk?

    You say you dont beat on the truck, yet you wanna cage it. Kinda weird to me. Also, you say that you are going to start over with a new truck later on. Why waste your time and a perfectly good truck to do this to it????

    IF I had a choice of cage or no cage in an offroad truck I would definately choose a cage every time. His design so far seems to be adequate.

    Also, that gap that you have between the tube and the roof is unacceptable.

    Really? why? because he would have to replace the cab? that cage can still save a life, asthetics arent everything man.
    Basically his cage seems to have the proper design elements (so far that is) if its finished pretty well then I dont see there being a problem with it doing its job, saving someone in a roll.

    Its his time, he can choose to waste it or use it to learn some fab skills. Who cares?
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    One way to do it ( i believe giant does some cages this way) is to put a notch down the side of the dash on both side then run the tube in that notch, and have it bend in towards the middle of the truck a few inches at the bottom to go through the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuctTapeRacing View Post
    Basically his cage seems to have the proper design elements (so far that is) if its finished pretty well then I dont see there being a problem with it doing its job, saving someone in a roll.

    Its his time, he can choose to waste it or use it to learn some fab skills. Who cares?
    2x I would personally notch the side of the dash away and not run a horizontal under the windshield like the MINI, instead in slamming me knees on a tube in front of the dash, but that cage would work and if good materials were used and the welds were sound I would be more helpful in a roll over that not having anything.

    And just ignore Roost. He just likes to read his own posts. He's up there with the Ginger kid in useless/uneducated posts.

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    So you guys are saying that is a quality cage then??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuctTapeRacing View Post
    You have room to talk?
    And you say this why

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    Quote Originally Posted by roostthemoon View Post
    And you say this why
    Because thats basically what I was asking you, You say this why?...

    but I am going to have to tell you the truth by saying you dont know what you are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roostthemoon View Post
    So you guys are saying that is a quality cage then??
    Its not how I would do it, nor how any respected fab shop would do it, but IMO, so far, it is a quality cage.

    I dont see how running the A pillar tube like that makes any significant difference in the strength of the cage over all compared to your normally accepted standards for a cage.

    That tube run "properly" would only be different in that its location is further up on the frame rail and that it would be more aesthetically pleasing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldozer View Post
    One way to do it ( i believe giant does some cages this way) is to put a notch down the side of the dash on both side then run the tube in that notch, and have it bend in towards the middle of the truck a few inches at the bottom to go through the floor.
    Yep, the mini was/is done that way, main reason to do that instead of running right infront of the dash is it's less of a knee whacker. My truck has exactly zero room behind the dash, and a custom dash is out of the question so it will get notched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuctTapeRacing View Post
    Its not how I would do it, nor how any respected fab shop would do it, but IMO, so far, it is a quality cage.

    I dont see how running the A pillar tube like that makes any significant difference in the strength of the cage over all compared to your normally accepted standards for a cage.

    That tube run "properly" would only be different in that its location is further up on the frame rail and that it would be more aesthetically pleasing.
    Thank you very much. I was my exact point there. I never said it wouldnt work. Thats why I said, "If you wanna do it, go ahead".

    Its just that is not the best way of doing it and I can bet he will wish someday that he went through the dash.

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    Escoranger, ignore roostthemoon, he has absolutely no clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1sleepy View Post
    Escoranger, ignore roostthemoon, he has absolutely no clue.

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    Sorry but that is exactly what I was thinking

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    Please tell me what info I posted is wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxyedor View Post
    Yep, the mini was/is done that way, main reason to do that instead of running right infront of the dash is it's less of a knee whacker. My truck has exactly zero room behind the dash, and a custom dash is out of the question so it will get notched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roostthemoon View Post
    Sorry dude, but I am going to have to tell you the truth by saying you dont know what you are doing.

    You say you dont beat on the truck, yet you wanna cage it. Kinda weird to me. Also, you say that you are going to start over with a new truck later on. Why waste your time and a perfectly good truck to do this to it????

    Also, that gap that you have between the tube and the roof is unacceptable.

    Stop where you are, rethink what you are doing, stop jumping the gun, and do it right. When you are really ready
    This is all B.S. The pictures of the incomplete cage he posted may not be an example of the BEST way to cage a truck, but it will do the job. Sure it doesn't look as cool as following the a-pillar and it will be a pain in the ass to get in a seat with that tube there, but it's stronger than a standard a-pillar tube that most trucks run these days.

    How many trucks have you built? How many cages have you designed/tested? You drive a truck with a bumper made by someone else and a lift kit on it also made by someone else. Your ranger has a mild lift and some tires, yet you want to tell this guy HE has no idea what he is doing when it's obvious he has more experience throwing some tubing at a truck than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roostthemoon View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1sleepy View Post
    How many trucks have you built? How many cages have you designed/tested? You drive a truck with a bumper made by someone else and a lift kit on it also made by someone else. Your ranger has a mild lift and some tires, yet you want to tell this guy HE has no idea what he is doing when it's obvious he has more experience throwing some tubing at a truck than you.

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    Not even gonna answer that question. You obviously dont know jack shit about me. HAHA, or what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1sleepy View Post
    The pictures of the incomplete cage he posted may not be an example of the BEST way to cage a truck, but it will do the job.
    Thank you also, that is exactly my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roostthemoon View Post
    Thank you also, that is exactly my point.
    What is your point? You are completely contradicting yourself. Do you have Tourette's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roostthemoon View Post
    If you want to continue caging it the way you are, then that is your choice.
    No I am not. Said the same thing everyone else is bitching about, but just said it differently. If I knew it wouldnt work, I would have said so. But I didnt

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    You told the guy he didn't know what he is doing when in fact, he is doing nothing wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1sleepy View Post
    You told the guy he didn't know what he is doing when in fact, he is doing nothing wrong!

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    You are exactly right, and I understand that.

    I should have worded everything differently. What I was meaning to say was it isnt the best way. It will work, but not the best. And he will someday probably want to go through the dash so why not do it through the dash the first time.

    My bad, sorry guys.

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    Fellas, this is one of the most informative threads on DR, please keep it going in that direction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 04yfzkid View Post
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    Pretty sure Geoff is re-doing it exactly the same way, just replacing sheet-metal and the one tube that got tweaked, the Mini will live again. That set-up is perfect for a DD IMO, makes keeping the dash nice, and keeping all your heating and air conditioning functional really easy. I wouldn't do a race truck that way, but race trucks don't need de-frosters.

    To the guy who originally asked about the A-pillar, I would cut yours out and notch it into the dash like the above picture. The way you have it is fine from a safety standpoint, but I think you're going to hate getting in and out of the truck and it looks bad. At this stage of the game it's no big deal to fix, cut it halfway down the straight section that parallels the windshield, sleeve it and it should work out perfectly.

    Even if you don't bash on your truck in the desert, still may as well have a cage. Offroad, if you're driving safely and paying attention there's very little chance of a roll unless something major breaks. On the freeway doing 70 with 10k other cars around with their drivers yapping on the phone and eating, your chances of getting hit and bad things happening are pretty high. I'd rather take an insurance pay-out and replace a cab, then take an insurance pay-out and have to replace the whole truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxyedor View Post
    Pretty sure Geoff is re-doing it exactly the same way, just replacing sheet-metal and the one tube that got tweaked, the Mini will live again. That set-up is perfect for a DD IMO, makes keeping the dash nice, and keeping all your heating and air conditioning functional really easy. I wouldn't do a race truck that way, but race trucks don't need de-frosters.
    I agree it was the perfect DD. I miss that truck as a whole truck. Everything was functional in that truck and it was bitchen with the dash like that. Even the E-brake still worked fine.

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    so are a lot of you guys that are going thru the dash, doing full bore cages, just ditching the e-brake all together, or rerouting? swapping to hand controls. what are some opinions on this, as i am right there and not sure what to do about it.
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    If you're going full-kill on the cage, but the truck will still be street driven (race only trucks don't need e-brakes) just cruise the junk-yard and find an e-brake handle you like and install it between the seats, mite take a little custom work to make the cable hook-up right, but it's the simple, cheap and reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxyedor View Post
    If you're going full-kill on the cage, but the truck will still be street driven (race only trucks don't need e-brakes) just cruise the junk-yard and find an e-brake handle you like and install it between the seats, mite take a little custom work to make the cable hook-up right, but it's the simple, cheap and reliable.

    thank you, i was thinking a hand control between the seats, trying to finish up a few odds n ends so i can bring her out to the MORE race and play with her before revamping the front and rear suspension. and this truck is fun miles only no more DD.

    and yes it is a full kilt cage, cab to rear leaving the front for now so i can play
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